Sunday, October 1, 2017

Well, That's A Very Specific Threshold

The Guardian:
If the attack is found to be a terrorist incident, it would be the first fatal jihadist knife attack at a public transport site in France.

FLG thinks this is the more important statement:
France, where more than 230 people have been killed in terrorist attacks since 2015, remains on high alert and under a state of emergency.

230 people!   Who gives a shit if it was the first one in the south of France on a Sunday in October in the afternoon in a train station?   France has Islamic terrorism problem.


Andrew Stevens said...

France has 67 million people. 230 people over two years doesn't sound like much to me. I'm sure vastly more people died in bathroom accidents over that period.

FLG said...

Perhaps you are correct, but there's some truth in what Hobbes wrote:
..."worst of all, continuall feare, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short"

There is something different, perhaps only in our imagination or perception but nonetheless different, between dying because of toaster accidents, for example, versus violent death at the hands of another person.

Andrew Stevens said...

Yes, I have noticed this argument more and more frequently made on the right for why my response is unacceptable to terrorism or, on the left, for why my response is unacceptable to mass shootings.

However, I don't find it persuasive. Hobbes, for example, was talking about people who (at least so he thought, and perhaps even in fact) really were in continual danger of violent death. But that's obviously not true in the Western democracies today; they just imagine they are, even though they obviously aren't.

It is not clear to me why we should pay deference to people's largely imaginary terrors and anxieties. For goodness sake, I'm not allowed to bring too much toothpaste on a plane and have to take off my shoes every time I board one because of almost entirely imaginary phantoms.

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