Sunday, November 22, 2009

Gulen Movement

FLG saw that Chris Hayes and Reihan had a bloggingheads in which they talked about the Gülen Movement. Perhaps it's because he wrote a research paper on the topic that he finds Reihan's ignorance on the subject surprising and feels that Hayes somewhat misunderstands the group. Although, FLG ought not expect everybody to have read both Gülen's writings and that of Said Nursî. Nevertheless, FLG has mentioned the group several times on this blog and he recommends that those concerned with how Islam can more fully reconcile itself with modernity to investigate it further.

4 comments:

George Pal said...

“… how Islam can more fully reconcile itself with modernity…”

It’s likely I’ll sound my usual wise-ass self but in all seriousness, shouldn’t the question be: how can Islam reconcile itself with its own tenets? There is so much of Islam that is unreasonable on it’s face and where reason can be found it is more likely than not a contradiction of some other point. What hope is there in moderation if the very foundation is immoderate and contradictory?

FLG said...

George:

Christianity isn't perfectly free from contradiction; for example, the Nicene Creed comes to mind.

George Pal said...

FLG,

Scholars and theologians can grind the difficult points of any religion into a fine powder and I’ve no problem with that (even enjoy reading about it sometimes - as far as my little brain can take it). What removes Islam from being ‘in the lineage of Judaism and Christianity’ is its very foundation. What inspires believers to believe Judaism and Christianity are Divinely inspired and instituted is the reasoned narrative of both monotheistic religions from foundation to application. Islam can’t make this claim.

As short as I can make it, Muhammad appropriated from Judaism and annexed to Islam the image, but not the substance, of the God of Abraham. To give this god substance he made it into his own image, an image unacquainted with reason and not given to contemplation (hence all the contradictions). As example: the signal features of man’s God given nature are free will and being made in His image - and Islam opposes both attributes - violently. So from the very beginning, from its foundation, Islam has been opposed to God and his creation and has made of that opposition a centuries long theomachy.

It’s this very foundation that is perverse, and to moderate or reform Islam you’d have to scrap it all and start from scratch. Even a moderate attempt at moderation could do no more than exacerbate schisms and make the blood flow.

FLG said...

George:

Email me when you get a chance.

 
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